i’d just like to point out supporting gay rights/marriage OR being gay and being religious is not mutually exclusive.
supporting gay rights and being a fundamentalist is, but don’t be fooled into thinking that their take on their religion is actually correct.
Penny Wong v Joe Hockey over Gay Marriage on Q and A (14—05-2012) (by tasmarshall)
“i know what my family is worth”
Family friends of ours, known as ‘The Michaels’ (coz obviously they’re both called Michael) got married in Basel yesterday!!!!!
Courage.
Oh geez what a cliche title. You’re off to a good start, Tara. Pretty sure you just stole that from Glee.
Something happened at my home group about a month or so ago that I honestly didn’t ever think I would have the courage to say to a group of Christians that the majority of which I know have differing beliefs to me on this particular controversial topic. Homosexuality. I’ve wanted to write something about it for a while but can’t seem to wrap my head around everything I want to say - so sorry if this is a bit rambly.
I don’t even really remember how on earth we’d gotten onto the topic, but the general tone and content of what my home group was saying was that obviously it was a sin and that it was wrong. I think I remember someone actually using the phrase “from the devil”. Granted he was saying that about a lot of things that night - but it still got me pretty furious. But I just sat there in silence. I hate that. I probably would have continued to do so if one of my good friends didn’t say that maybe we should be more sensitive about this topic because not everyone believes that in this group. He was one of the few people from my church that knew my views on the topic. Had he not said that I probably wouldn’t have spoken up.
I have not been so nervous in front of a group of people in quite a long time.
I’ll give you some background on my situation - I’ve grown up in a Christian home, was taught from a young age that homosexuality is wrong. Now my parents are absolutely lovely people, while they believe it’s a sin, of course they treat gay people with as much love and respect as anyone else. I want to make that clear. But it is how I was raised and what I believed until at least grade 12, if not longer.
My opinion on the matter has changed though, obviously, and I’m not going to lie I completely struggled with it. I’m not gay, but as I got older I just didn’t see how an act of love could be a sin. It didn’t seem in God’s nature. But then my dad, someone who I looked up to, see as highly intelligent and agree with on almost everything else thought it was wrong. I prayed about it and cried about it and thought that I must be an awful Christian. I didn’t know where I stood on it for the longest time.
Although I love my home group and I’m very good friends with a lot of them, I still felt as though I was going to be judged quite harshly by them for my opinion. I stated that I didn’t believe homosexuality was a sin and that I thought gay marriage should be legalised and the shock on a lot of their faces was very apparent. Something inside of me sort of broke down and I started crying. I’m not even really sure why. I think maybe it’s because I’ve grown up in such a solid home and have mostly known exactly what I believe (apart from a brief period in high school when I had lots of doubts about everything). And then suddenly I didn’t know what I believed anymore and it seemed like nothing made sense. Like I said - I don’t really know, but anyway I got emotional about it.
It was so weird. I felt like I was coming out or something. Like I had this horrible horrible secret that I would be hated for. I can’t imagine how hard it must be for Christians who actually do have to come out. All I did was say I didn’t think it was wrong and my stomach was in knots. I still haven’t told my parents what I believe because I’m afraid of their reaction!
Anyway, out home group leader was actually away that week, but his wife was there and obviously she told him what had happened, probably more because she was worried I was upset more than anything. I got a message from our leader asking if I wanted to talk about it or anything and I said it was okay and that I wasn’t sure why I was so emotional and asked him if there was something he wanted me to talk about. I got a message back saying that depending on how passionate I was about this that there might be an issue with me being a leader of the church.
Now I think that he was probably referring to if I actually wanted to talk about it while I was leading a service, so I told him I wasn’t planning on preaching about it or anything. He said then it wouldn’t be a problem. But I was so shaken up by that message. I have literally gone to this church my entire life. Suddenly I was being told that my views were so against that of the church that I wouldn’t be allowed to lead anymore. This was my church. My church that is basically my second home. Somewhere that I feel so so safe. I couldn’t help but think at that point that something was definitely wrong with what my views were. I was actually over at my friends house when I got the message and couldn’t even bring myself to tell her what was happening. I jumped on skype and thank the lord, Sarah was on and I vented and she calmed me down and told me it would be all right and that sometimes things suck but it’s okay. Seriously I love that girl.
Although he said I can still be a leader if I don’t speak about it up the front - what about if someone from the youth group asks me? What do they expect me to do? I cannot and will not lie about what I think. Will they ask me to step down? Would I then have to try and find another church after being at the same one for almost 20 years? It makes me feel sick that it could happen.
I guess we will see what God has in store.
This has been a post that I don’t really know how to end. If you read it all the way through, thanks for taking an interest in my life.
TL;DR
I used to believe being gay was wrong, now I don’t. I told some people and now I might not be able to be a leader in my church.
this is a quality post.
Richard Davies for This is Oz: speak up for an inclusive Australia.
http://thisoz.squarespace.com/blog/richard-davies-offspring-network-ten.html
Kat Stewart for This is Oz: Speak up for an inclusive Australia.
http://thisoz.squarespace.com/blog/kat-stewart-offspring-network-ten.html
lgbtqgmh:[Homosexuality is found in over 450 species. Homophobia is found in only one. Which one seems unnatural now?]
My question…How do you know the animals are gay?
Weeeeeell, animals can’t be gay. You also can’t say they’re straight either. Only humans care about labelling and semantics like that. By labelling certain feelings as gay, straight, bi etc we’ve created boxes in which people are (supposedly) meant to fit, and it just doesn’t work like that. Signs of homosexuality in animals simply shows that homosexuality is not abnormal, and it’s also evidence for the fact that sexuality is indeed fluid, and anyone could essentially have homosexual feelings without it meaning they’re absolutely not straight ( ie: they must be gay, lesbian or bi). Humans are so restricted by social pressures and norms that this obsession we have for boxing ourselves into descriptions is quite annoying for people who don’t know where they fit.
For everyone who knows Magda Szubanski (an Australian actress) she was on The Project a few weeks ago and basically said there was no description for her sexuality. It was along the lines of:
“I’m not straight, or gay… but I’m not bi either. The way I like to say it is I’m gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, a little bit not gay, gay, gay, gay, gay…”
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MAGDA Szubanski is making an impassioned Valentine’s Day plea for gay marriage to be legalised as she reveals her own sexuality.
The comic actor has dramatically thrown her celebrity behind the fight for marriage equality.Read more
yay!!!!! You go girl!
tozerm replied to your post: tozerm replied to your post: Bill to allow gay…
I applaud you for doing that, but the right wing would never let that pass, and with a minority government, nothing will go through. I take more objection to the person calling their MP homophobic, the bill not passing doesn’t make them homophobicI know, it seems hopeless, but I figure if it can happen anywhere in the USA it’s possible here. Also, I’m not about to make a hypocrite of myself by topping off a two-year pro-rights reblogging spree by letting a bill like this slip past without even injecting my two cents somewhere it can contribute to the issue (ie, somewhere other than Tumblr).
Fair call on the issue with the person calling their MP homophobic, they’re probably just a Liberal… or an ALP member… or a Green… or an independent… You get my point.
(Are the Greens as anti-gay marriage as ALP/Libs? I don’t even know. They’re basically the ALP’s second head so I imagine they’d take Gillard’s side.)
Weeeeeell, the Greens are known for their more ‘liberal’ policies on gay marriage, the environment and so on… and considering the Greens Leader Bob Brown is gay, I’d say the Liberal Party/ALP are more anti-gay marriage.
I think whoever your MP is, it doesn’t matter, you should write a letter telling them how you feel about it. Because ultimately, they are elected by us. Therefore, it is in their interests to not lose our votes. However, I think it’s also fair to assume that in some parts of Australia, the conservative votes far outweigh the liberal votes. Some examples are some electorates in Queensland, most of the country electorates and the Bible belt in Sydney. If you live in one of these, you’d probably feel like there are better ways to support the cause than writing a letter.
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Defending the ‘sanctity’ of marriage…
to the sexist person and Tony Jones tweeting on q&a
Firstly, the sexist bastard: there is no need to comment on the fact that Penny Wong is wearing a suit and make a joke that she and Joe Hockey went suit shopping. I know I’m nitpicking on what was probably a flippant comment, but I think people just joke about it and not think about how it comes across. Yes, she’s gay. GET THE FUCK OVER IT. She’s also the Finance Minister. Seriously.
To Tony Jones: there is actually no need to point out that Penny Wong is gay everytime you talk about parenthood. C’mon.