This may or may not have made me teary at the end.
Marriage equality protest on one corner, fundo Christian preacher on the other. The latter going on about how we’re all turning into animals. Should have pulled his microphone out of the amp. Gahh, you act nothing like Jesus, so fuck off. I hate how this whole debate has become supposedly Christians against decent human beings. Theyre not freakin acting like Christians!
i’d just like to point out supporting gay rights/marriage OR being gay and being religious is not mutually exclusive.
supporting gay rights and being a fundamentalist is, but don’t be fooled into thinking that their take on their religion is actually correct.
I don’t understand why people are so against gay marriage. I have never understood it actually.
Yes, I understand a lot of it has to do with peoples religious beliefs.
But I just don’t understand how it concerns them at all.
My best friend is gay. If her and her girlfriend get married how does that even effect anyone else?
It’s not like them getting married is going to make the world implode.
I just do not get why people feel the need to make it so fucking difficult for people to be happy.
Religion isn’t even a valid excuse (well, nothing is a valid excuse tbh, but religion least of all). I could go on about this in rant form, but basically (in Christianity at least) if you’re against gay marriage then you should technically also condone stoning as a punishment which is of course illegal. It’s funny how the Church will ‘move with the times’ when it has to… I think you’ll find Jesus had nothing to say about the ‘sins’ of homosexuality. Instead He mostly talked about the importance of love.
The majority of His fan club are so far from his teachings it’s not funny.
Family friends of ours, known as ‘The Michaels’ (coz obviously they’re both called Michael) got married in Basel yesterday!!!!!
Oh geez what a cliche title. You’re off to a good start, Tara. Pretty sure you just stole that from Glee.
Something happened at my home group about a month or so ago that I honestly didn’t ever think I would have the courage to say to a group of Christians that the majority of which I know have differing beliefs to me on this particular controversial topic. Homosexuality. I’ve wanted to write something about it for a while but can’t seem to wrap my head around everything I want to say - so sorry if this is a bit rambly.
I don’t even really remember how on earth we’d gotten onto the topic, but the general tone and content of what my home group was saying was that obviously it was a sin and that it was wrong. I think I remember someone actually using the phrase “from the devil”. Granted he was saying that about a lot of things that night - but it still got me pretty furious. But I just sat there in silence. I hate that. I probably would have continued to do so if one of my good friends didn’t say that maybe we should be more sensitive about this topic because not everyone believes that in this group. He was one of the few people from my church that knew my views on the topic. Had he not said that I probably wouldn’t have spoken up.
I have not been so nervous in front of a group of people in quite a long time.
I’ll give you some background on my situation - I’ve grown up in a Christian home, was taught from a young age that homosexuality is wrong. Now my parents are absolutely lovely people, while they believe it’s a sin, of course they treat gay people with as much love and respect as anyone else. I want to make that clear. But it is how I was raised and what I believed until at least grade 12, if not longer.
My opinion on the matter has changed though, obviously, and I’m not going to lie I completely struggled with it. I’m not gay, but as I got older I just didn’t see how an act of love could be a sin. It didn’t seem in God’s nature. But then my dad, someone who I looked up to, see as highly intelligent and agree with on almost everything else thought it was wrong. I prayed about it and cried about it and thought that I must be an awful Christian. I didn’t know where I stood on it for the longest time.
Although I love my home group and I’m very good friends with a lot of them, I still felt as though I was going to be judged quite harshly by them for my opinion. I stated that I didn’t believe homosexuality was a sin and that I thought gay marriage should be legalised and the shock on a lot of their faces was very apparent. Something inside of me sort of broke down and I started crying. I’m not even really sure why. I think maybe it’s because I’ve grown up in such a solid home and have mostly known exactly what I believe (apart from a brief period in high school when I had lots of doubts about everything). And then suddenly I didn’t know what I believed anymore and it seemed like nothing made sense. Like I said - I don’t really know, but anyway I got emotional about it.
It was so weird. I felt like I was coming out or something. Like I had this horrible horrible secret that I would be hated for. I can’t imagine how hard it must be for Christians who actually do have to come out. All I did was say I didn’t think it was wrong and my stomach was in knots. I still haven’t told my parents what I believe because I’m afraid of their reaction!
Anyway, out home group leader was actually away that week, but his wife was there and obviously she told him what had happened, probably more because she was worried I was upset more than anything. I got a message from our leader asking if I wanted to talk about it or anything and I said it was okay and that I wasn’t sure why I was so emotional and asked him if there was something he wanted me to talk about. I got a message back saying that depending on how passionate I was about this that there might be an issue with me being a leader of the church.
Now I think that he was probably referring to if I actually wanted to talk about it while I was leading a service, so I told him I wasn’t planning on preaching about it or anything. He said then it wouldn’t be a problem. But I was so shaken up by that message. I have literally gone to this church my entire life. Suddenly I was being told that my views were so against that of the church that I wouldn’t be allowed to lead anymore. This was my church. My church that is basically my second home. Somewhere that I feel so so safe. I couldn’t help but think at that point that something was definitely wrong with what my views were. I was actually over at my friends house when I got the message and couldn’t even bring myself to tell her what was happening. I jumped on skype and thank the lord, Sarah was on and I vented and she calmed me down and told me it would be all right and that sometimes things suck but it’s okay. Seriously I love that girl.
Although he said I can still be a leader if I don’t speak about it up the front - what about if someone from the youth group asks me? What do they expect me to do? I cannot and will not lie about what I think. Will they ask me to step down? Would I then have to try and find another church after being at the same one for almost 20 years? It makes me feel sick that it could happen.
I guess we will see what God has in store.
This has been a post that I don’t really know how to end. If you read it all the way through, thanks for taking an interest in my life.
I used to believe being gay was wrong, now I don’t. I told some people and now I might not be able to be a leader in my church.
this is a quality post.
Richard Davies for This is Oz: speak up for an inclusive Australia.
Kat Stewart for This is Oz: Speak up for an inclusive Australia.
lgbtqgmh:[Homosexuality is found in over 450 species. Homophobia is found in only one. Which one seems unnatural now?]
My question…How do you know the animals are gay?
Weeeeeell, animals can’t be gay. You also can’t say they’re straight either. Only humans care about labelling and semantics like that. By labelling certain feelings as gay, straight, bi etc we’ve created boxes in which people are (supposedly) meant to fit, and it just doesn’t work like that. Signs of homosexuality in animals simply shows that homosexuality is not abnormal, and it’s also evidence for the fact that sexuality is indeed fluid, and anyone could essentially have homosexual feelings without it meaning they’re absolutely not straight ( ie: they must be gay, lesbian or bi). Humans are so restricted by social pressures and norms that this obsession we have for boxing ourselves into descriptions is quite annoying for people who don’t know where they fit.
For everyone who knows Magda Szubanski (an Australian actress) she was on The Project a few weeks ago and basically said there was no description for her sexuality. It was along the lines of:
“I’m not straight, or gay… but I’m not bi either. The way I like to say it is I’m gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, a little bit not gay, gay, gay, gay, gay…”
not all family members, but select few.
i sometimes catch them saying racist, homophobic, sexist, and other things. and when i’m like ‘um excuse me?’ they’re like ‘what? i’m not racist/homphobic/sexist/whateverthefuckelse’
comeon. why do i have to listen and apparently be okay with it just because i’m unfortunately related to you?
I’m not going to let you abuse Japanese people in general everytime you see a newstory about the whaling issues the Aus govt are dealing with.
I’m not going to let you pass judgement on why you think a conscience vote shouldn’t be allowed when passing the gay marriage bills.
I could go on but I may kick something.
just fucking join Tony Abbott’s team and be done with it.
MAGDA Szubanski is making an impassioned Valentine’s Day plea for gay marriage to be legalised as she reveals her own sexuality.
The comic actor has dramatically thrown her celebrity behind the fight for marriage equality.Read moreyay!!!!! You go girl!